Comments on: Note from Belgrade, regarding the cliché “art in public space” http://copyriot.se/2008/11/06/not-from-belgrade-regarding-the-cliche-art-in-public-space/ Multiplication can produce powerful numbers Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:17:05 +0000 hourly 1 By: monki http://copyriot.se/2008/11/06/not-from-belgrade-regarding-the-cliche-art-in-public-space/comment-page-1/#comment-25829 monki Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:56:01 +0000 http://copyriot.se/?p=567#comment-25829 Tampongtomteverkstan: I think the artist always has just as much or more control over the art as anyone else. To obstain from this is a choice that can be made but often not an honest one I think because it hides the power the artist actually has. Let me give you an example from the bus. While it was stationed in Bolzano during the summer, it was left with some spray cans inside. When we arrived again, we had noticed that someone had taken these and spraypainted the outside of the bus. I a very ugly manner I have to add. Now, as artists we had several choices in this situation. We could have kept the spraypaint, talking about how the people now had truly interacted with the art. But this would have been to fetischise authenticity. What we did I think was much better, we also remodified the bus. Removed some paint, added other, filled in some earlier paintings and generally made it look much better from our point of view. In this way we claimed just the same control over the art as the people with the spray cans had claimed. It was only our position as artists that made it possible to do this after the exhibition was closed and therefor have the final "word". The artist has an information advantage over the public in relation to the art. The artist always uses this even in a way that allows, yes allows, the public to engage with the art. It is always a priviledge granted by the artist. Tampongtomteverkstan: I think the artist always has just as much or more control over the art as anyone else. To obstain from this is a choice that can be made but often not an honest one I think because it hides the power the artist actually has.
Let me give you an example from the bus. While it was stationed in Bolzano during the summer, it was left with some spray cans inside. When we arrived again, we had noticed that someone had taken these and spraypainted the outside of the bus. I a very ugly manner I have to add. Now, as artists we had several choices in this situation. We could have kept the spraypaint, talking about how the people now had truly interacted with the art. But this would have been to fetischise authenticity. What we did I think was much better, we also remodified the bus. Removed some paint, added other, filled in some earlier paintings and generally made it look much better from our point of view. In this way we claimed just the same control over the art as the people with the spray cans had claimed. It was only our position as artists that made it possible to do this after the exhibition was closed and therefor have the final “word”. The artist has an information advantage over the public in relation to the art. The artist always uses this even in a way that allows, yes allows, the public to engage with the art. It is always a priviledge granted by the artist.

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]]> By: Tampongtomteverkstan http://copyriot.se/2008/11/06/not-from-belgrade-regarding-the-cliche-art-in-public-space/comment-page-1/#comment-25771 Tampongtomteverkstan Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:38:48 +0000 http://copyriot.se/?p=567#comment-25771 Tampongtomteverkstan feels that art can become close to truly public! But that means that the artist cannot claim any control over the art. The interpretation must be made by the people. That includes the definition of the work as art. The people must have the possibility to change/ add to the art, and remove it completely from public space if they like. The artist's role can only be the one of a catalyst. The "artist's role" must be minimized of the "publicness" should be maximized. But Tampongtomteverkstan recognize that public art might serve different puposes. In your art one of the puposes is advertising (piratbyrån, the ideas of kopimi etc), and you should not try to minimize the "artist's role", since the effect of the advertising then would lessen aswell. The prize is ofcourse that your art's "publicness" is reduced. Tampongtomteverkstan feels that art can become close to truly public! But that means that the artist cannot claim any control over the art. The interpretation must be made by the people. That includes the definition of the work as art. The people must have the possibility to change/ add to the art, and remove it completely from public space if they like. The artist’s role can only be the one of a catalyst. The “artist’s role” must be minimized of the “publicness” should be maximized.

But Tampongtomteverkstan recognize that public art might serve different puposes. In your art one of the puposes is advertising (piratbyrån, the ideas of kopimi etc), and you should not try to minimize the “artist’s role”, since the effect of the advertising then would lessen aswell. The prize is ofcourse that your art’s “publicness” is reduced.

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