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		<title>By: Copyriot &#8250; Autumn talk, part 4: The method of Kopimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Copyriot &#8250; Autumn talk, part 4: The method of Kopimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Copyriot &#8250; Autumn talk, part 3: Greyzone communities</title>
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		<dc:creator>Copyriot &#8250; Autumn talk, part 3: Greyzone communities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Copyriot &#8250; Autumn talk, part 2: Bass and place, meaning and abundance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Copyriot &#8250; Autumn talk, part 2: Bass and place, meaning and abundance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sasi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just occurred to me that copyright is now about tools, not works, because the tools eliminate artificial scarcity... hence revenue.
Now back to jumping around in my bedroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just occurred to me that copyright is now about tools, not works, because the tools eliminate artificial scarcity&#8230; hence revenue.<br />
Now back to jumping around in my bedroom.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasi</title>
		<link>http://copyriot.se/2008/10/11/autumn-talk-part-1-why-copyright-is-now-about-tools-not-works/comment-page-1/#comment-25379</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When we are able to listen to any piece of music, whenever, whenever, the experience of listening is deprived of its emotional value. Instead we start desiring musical experiences which can not be accessed whenever and wherever. We begin seeking out contexts which are specific for a place and a time. Some of these contexts are by convention known as “live” music, others are just multiplicating small habits which are still not institutionalised.&quot;

...mmm... very philosophic. Not sure if unlimited availability of recorded music will make us desire live music more (is that what you are suggesting?). 

Having said that, artificial and real scarcity will always be a characteristic of live music; while new technology has/will remove the artificial scarcity that copyright has created around recorded music (read movies etc), as well as eroding the real scarcity of recorded music brought about by the cost of producing a copy (which is almost 0 now). Scarcity is still one of the main selling points in the media industry (the emotional value of waiting four months for a movie being released in your country, and then waiting another 6 month to get your sweaty hands on the DVD). 
I disagree that being able to listen to any piece of music deprives the experience of listening of its emotional value. The emotional value of music is the music itself…. removing the emotional value created by scarcity wont change that. Its still great or shit music, even if it’s free. 

“…others are just multiplicating small habits which are still not institutionalised” what’s that? Jumping around in your bedroom :-)

I think your basic assumption is that we will always desire what we can’t have… accepting the mantra of the “I am because I shop” aspirational society. I am not sure about that. I think that with unlimited availability of music people will start to judge it more based on its artistic merit, rather than the hype created by the media industry (lets face it, the Spice Girls had hits because of the hype/emotional value artificially created around them, not because the music had a lot of emotional value in itself).

Its conceivable that removing the emotional value attached to artificial scarcity will mean we go back to consuming what we need, rather than consuming what we desire… back to the early 20th Century when shopping was a “necessity” rather than a “leisure activity” or &quot;self expression&quot;. I guess you see that with downloads – when people first hit the pirate bay they tend to download massive amount of stuff (desire), end up deleting most of it, and then only download what they need (thats when people start downloading single song or albums, rather than the entire back catalogue with all B sides).</description>
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<p>&#8230;mmm&#8230; very philosophic. Not sure if unlimited availability of recorded music will make us desire live music more (is that what you are suggesting?). </p>
<p>Having said that, artificial and real scarcity will always be a characteristic of live music; while new technology has/will remove the artificial scarcity that copyright has created around recorded music (read movies etc), as well as eroding the real scarcity of recorded music brought about by the cost of producing a copy (which is almost 0 now). Scarcity is still one of the main selling points in the media industry (the emotional value of waiting four months for a movie being released in your country, and then waiting another 6 month to get your sweaty hands on the DVD).<br />
I disagree that being able to listen to any piece of music deprives the experience of listening of its emotional value. The emotional value of music is the music itself…. removing the emotional value created by scarcity wont change that. Its still great or shit music, even if it’s free. </p>
<p>“…others are just multiplicating small habits which are still not institutionalised” what’s that? Jumping around in your bedroom <img src='http://copyriot.se/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think your basic assumption is that we will always desire what we can’t have… accepting the mantra of the “I am because I shop” aspirational society. I am not sure about that. I think that with unlimited availability of music people will start to judge it more based on its artistic merit, rather than the hype created by the media industry (lets face it, the Spice Girls had hits because of the hype/emotional value artificially created around them, not because the music had a lot of emotional value in itself).</p>
<p>Its conceivable that removing the emotional value attached to artificial scarcity will mean we go back to consuming what we need, rather than consuming what we desire… back to the early 20th Century when shopping was a “necessity” rather than a “leisure activity” or &#8220;self expression&#8221;. I guess you see that with downloads – when people first hit the pirate bay they tend to download massive amount of stuff (desire), end up deleting most of it, and then only download what they need (thats when people start downloading single song or albums, rather than the entire back catalogue with all B sides).</p>
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		<title>By: Copyriot &#8250; Bas suspenderad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Copyriot &#8250; Bas suspenderad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rasmus</title>
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		<dc:creator>rasmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ludophile: Så vad vill du ha sagt? Jag är fullt medveten om att jag inte skriver bra engelska. Fortfarande är det dock så att folk runt om i Europa bjuder in mig att hålla föredrag. På engelska, vilket i allmänhet heller icke är deras modersmål. Kanske borde gnälla på dem istället.
Detta är ett hastigt upp-skriv (write-up) baserat på dessa föredrag, och i viss mån en förberedning för kommande. Det är anledningen till språkvalet.

Så, vad ville du ha sagt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ludophile: Så vad vill du ha sagt? Jag är fullt medveten om att jag inte skriver bra engelska. Fortfarande är det dock så att folk runt om i Europa bjuder in mig att hålla föredrag. På engelska, vilket i allmänhet heller icke är deras modersmål. Kanske borde gnälla på dem istället.<br />
Detta är ett hastigt upp-skriv (write-up) baserat på dessa föredrag, och i viss mån en förberedning för kommande. Det är anledningen till språkvalet.</p>
<p>Så, vad ville du ha sagt?</p>
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		<title>By: Ludophile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ludophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Svengelskan haglar.  Här följer... vilka i sin tur... Från tiden kring... Begripligt, men klumpigt och svårläst. Och så typiskt svenskt; &quot;Äh, det är okej, jag är ju jättebra på engelska!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Svengelskan haglar.  Här följer&#8230; vilka i sin tur&#8230; Från tiden kring&#8230; Begripligt, men klumpigt och svårläst. Och så typiskt svenskt; &#8220;Äh, det är okej, jag är ju jättebra på engelska!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kalle P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kalle P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ser fram emot &quot;Bass and Place&quot;-pratet - har inspirerats av det i mitt gubbslemsprojekt. Där blev ju slem-mappningsfilmen självt en imitative ray, en &quot;plugin&quot; som skapade en &quot;nedladdningsbar subjektivitet&quot;. Och denna kan ju spåras; den är materiell, i någon mening.

Det är fint att tänka i de materialistiska termer som du nämnde en gång - i vilka ekologier/miljöer kan dessa replikatorer leva vidare, fortplanta sig? I ditt fall, dubstep-ritorneller, i närheten av feta baselement; i mitt fall, bilden av oss som gubbslem, i datorer upphookade till hög bandbredd på Humanisten vid Göteborgs Universitet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ser fram emot &#8220;Bass and Place&#8221;-pratet &#8211; har inspirerats av det i mitt gubbslemsprojekt. Där blev ju slem-mappningsfilmen självt en imitative ray, en &#8220;plugin&#8221; som skapade en &#8220;nedladdningsbar subjektivitet&#8221;. Och denna kan ju spåras; den är materiell, i någon mening.</p>
<p>Det är fint att tänka i de materialistiska termer som du nämnde en gång &#8211; i vilka ekologier/miljöer kan dessa replikatorer leva vidare, fortplanta sig? I ditt fall, dubstep-ritorneller, i närheten av feta baselement; i mitt fall, bilden av oss som gubbslem, i datorer upphookade till hög bandbredd på Humanisten vid Göteborgs Universitet.</p>
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		<title>By: Några fynd från piratjägarlagen &#171; V, fildelning &#38; upphovsrätt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Några fynd från piratjägarlagen &#171; V, fildelning &#38; upphovsrätt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 11, på s 199ff, ser ut som ännu en bekräftelse på det Rasmus Fleischer brukar trycka på: att dagens immaterialrätt handlar mer och mer om verktyg. Tyvärr kan jag inte [...]</description>
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